The article below explains why NC HJR 172 is a very BAD idea. https://www.ncleg.gov/Sessions/2021/Bills/House/PDF/H172v2.pdf
“It is idiotic to assert that you can rein in a federal government which ignores the Constitution by amending the Constitution! – Publius Huldah.
Article V of the U.S. Constitution
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
As anyone can read there are no rules, regulations, guide lines, etc. on how to run a Constitutional Convention. NO GUARANTEES. Anything can happen. Do any of you really want to take a chance of losing the Constitution as it now stands? The possible lost of the Bill of Rights? Again, there are NO GUARANTEES as to what we will get if, a Constitutional Convention is convened.
Fremont V Brown III
To learn more about an Article V see this video https://youtu.be/dPRQLlkQf2A
And this webpage https://tarheelteaparty.org/?page_id=1186
Update on the above Article V
Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 6:47 PM
Dear No Convention of States North Carolina Committee Members and Friends:
Some of you have contacted me to ask what happened on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at the scheduled NC House Vote on HJR 172 ( a House Joint Resolution seeking Term Limits for Congress through an Article V convention). I have been eager to share the information with you, but, I wanted to make sure that I had all of the facts before I report.
Late Tuesday night (3/09/2021), I sent an URGENT Alert telling you that HJR 172 had been fast-tracked through the House Judiciary I Committee earlier in the day. Then, it was immediately put on the House Calendar to be voted on the next day, (Wednesday 3/10/21) in the 3 pm House Session.
I asked you to immediately contact all the NC Representatives at the North Carolina General Assembly urging them to VOTE NO on HJR 172. I sent you a list with all the email addresses of House members arranged in groups so that we could cut and paste them into our emails.
Our time was short, but you responded, my friends, YOU RESPONDED!! I am so proud of you!
NoCOS-NC is a non-partisan Committee. So we will look at this development through a non-partisan lens. The (Republican) supporters and Sponsors confidently thought that HJR 172 was going to breeze through the House Floor Vote. Given the support it got in the Republican-controlled Judiciary I Committee, it was hard to imagine that it would not breeze through the vote– even though the Democrats in the House had indicated that they were unified in their opposition to an Article V convention – as they have been in previous Legislative Sessions. Democrats are concerned about “losing their rights instead of gaining them” (A quote by former Representative Angela Bryant The Wilson Times, Feb. 2017).”
As I watched the Session at home using LIVESTREAM video, I was determined not to be disappointed if things didn’t go our way. We can still appeal to the Senate to stop it. But, to my astonishment, instead of calling for a vote from the Representatives, Speaker of the House, Tim Moore, announced that he was pulling HJR 172 from the Calendar and returning it to the Rules Committee.
You are probably asking yourself: “Exactly what does that mean?” When I contacted several Representatives for an explanation, I was told that it had been determined before the Session started that there were not enough votes among Republicans to ensure that HJR 172 would pass. That is why Speaker Moore (a Primary Sponsor of HJR 172), decided to pull it off the floor.
The Insider, a News & Observer publication for government officials, put it this way:
“Brakes applied to U.S. Constitutional Convention bill (The Insider reports) — House Speaker Tim Moore pulled his own bill off Wednesday’s House agenda over concerns that he didn’t have enough votes.”
So, that is where we stand at this time. It is apparent that your instant action signaled to the Representatives that “We the People” do not want an Article V convention – and secondarily, do not want Congressional Term Limits.
This is something to celebrate. Rarely does the Speaker sign on as a Sponsor of a bill or resolution. I have been told that behind the scenes, some big out-of-state names have been pressuring our Representatives in various ways to abandon their principles and vote for an Article V convention – a convention that will risk all that our founders sacrificed to give us. We must continue to support the Representatives who are standing strong for our Constitution – and of course bring other ones into the understanding of the serious dangers of such a proposition.
We are happy we won this battle, but we must stay alert. HJR 172 could possibly return for a vote. In addition, HJR 233, the resolution for a Convention of States was assigned to the same House Judiciary I Committee that passed HJR 172 quickly on to the House Floor.
That said, what we accomplished on Wednesday was truly remarkable. You contacted the Representatives with weekend phone calls, with postal mail letters and e-mails. It is great and inspiring!
So, WHAT’S NEXT? STAY TUNED. I will be in touch with you collectively and individually as we move forward.
You may not know that there are other states dealing with this exact same issue right now. State Legislators in Wisconsin, Wyoming, West Virginia, Tennessee and Georgia are being pressed by the pro-Article V convention power brokers to quickly pass their Article V and Convention of States applications before the public can catch on. They are aggressive because we have done so well against them.
Let’s show the nation what North Carolina is made of. In history, it has often been North Carolina that was the leading state in stopping an entire unconstitutional movement from succeeding.
Look for more of my alerts and please let me know of anything that comes to your attention. I welcome your knowledge and insights. To learn more about the dangers of a Convention of States, visit the NoCOS-NC website at nocosnc.com
Yours for the Constitution,
Chair, No Convention of States North Carolina